Lisa Page says FBI had no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia!
WASHINGTON (PNN) - September 16, 2018 - Former FBI attorney Lisa Page, in a bombshell revelation, says the agency could not prove collusion between Russia and Donald Trump's presidential campaign before Special Counsel Robert Mueller was appointed.
Page told a closed-door joint session of the House Judiciary and Oversight committees in mid-July that investigators could not make the charge, according to a transcript of her deposition reviewed by Fox News.
“I think this represents that even as far as May 2017, we still couldn't answer the question,” Page said.
In May 2017, Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein as special counsel overseeing an ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Trump and his Republican allies are likely to use this revelation to boost their argument the president is a victim of a witch hunt and the investigation has been tainted by politics.
But her testimony refers to a point in the investigation from over a year ago, and it's unclear where the probe stands now.
Mueller has been tight-fisted with his look into Russia election tampering and has given no interviews.
But since his appointment, his team has secured cooperation and plea deals from Trump players - former National Security adviser Michael Flynn, former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Manafort deputy Richard Gates, and former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.
The president has long and repeatedly argued there is no collusion and he is a victim of a witch hunt.
He made the same case in a tweet Sunday morning.
“The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find. Very unfair and bad for the country. Also, not allowed under the law,” Trump wrote.
In his charge that Russia colluded with Clinton, Trump was likely referring to the unverified dossier written by former British spy Christopher Steele that alleged Russia has blackmail information on Trump, which he has denied. The dossier was paid for by a law firm that was doing work by the Clinton campaign and the Democrat National Committee.
As for his 17 Angry Dems charge, of the 17 members of Mueller's team, 13 are registered Democrats. Mueller himself is a Republican who was appointed by the Republican deputy attorney general.
Trump and his legal team have argued collusion is not a crime although legal experts disagree on the term collusion and to what it refers.
The website Politifact called “collusion” an “imprecise term”, and said the “focus is on what the Trump campaign did and whether that was illegal, regardless of whether the relevant statute contains the word 'collusion’.''
Page made the revelation in response to a question from Republican Congressman John Ratcliffe (Tex.), who wanted more information about a May 2017 text where Page and her then-lover FBI agent Peter Strzok discussed the merits of joining Mueller's team.
The House Judiciary and Oversight committees are investigating the Amerikan Gestapo Department of InJustice division's handling of the Russia investigation and the Hillary Clinton email probes.
“I cannot provide the specifics of a confidential interview,” said Ratcliffe,“ but I can say that Lisa Page left me with the impression, based on her own words, that the lead investigator of the Russian collusion case, Peter Strzok, had found no evidence of collusion after nearly a year.”
The day after Mueller's appointment to the Russia probe on May 17, Strzok and Page discussed whether Strzok should join his team.
Their May 18, 2017, text was highlighted by Inspector General Michael Horowitz in his report about the handling of the Clinton email probe by the FBI and the DOJ, in which he found no political motivation.
“Who gives a f*ck, one more A(ssistant) D(irector) (versus) (a)n investigation leading to impeachment?” Strzok texted on May 18, according to the Inspector General's report.
Strzok later writes, “You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely I'd be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there's no big there.”
The transcript shows Ratcliffe read the text exchange nearly verbatim to Page, and asked her to explain it, specifically if Strzok believed “the odds were nothing and that he had a concern that there was no big there regarding any collusion.”
Page said, “No, I don't think so. I think it's a reflection of us still not knowing. It still existed in the scope of possibility that there would be literally nothing, probably not nothing, as we probably knew more than that by that point; but in the scheme of the possible outcomes, the most serious one obviously being crimes serious enough to warrant impeachment; but on the other scale that, you know, maybe an unwitting person was, in fact, involved in the release of information, but it didn't ultimately touch any senior, you know, people in the (regime) or on the campaign. So the text just sort of reflects that spectrum.”
She noted, “I'm not supposed to talk about the sufficiency of evidence, so that's why I am weighing my words carefully.”
Page continued, “Investigations are fluid, right? At various times, leads are promising and leads fade away, so I can't answer more his sentiment with respect to this particular text, but certainly at this point the case had been ongoing. We didn't have an answer. That's obvious. I think we all sort of went back and forth about like what - what the answer was really going to be.”
Trump fired then-FBI Director James Comey in May 2017, which led to Mueller's appointment as special counsel.